Robert M. Anderson's mother was Sarah Hale. Sarah's father was Luke Hale (Hail) from Tennessee born about 1790, who later moved to Missouri.
Robert M.'s dawes application includes testimonies that state that Luke Hale is first cousin to Maxwell Chambers. (this would have to be Maxwell Chambers b. abt. 1793, married to Elise Sanders - Oo-kilh-lul-le) Other testimony, from witnesses who were part of the Cherokee Nation in 1893, stated that they knew these families to be related, but were unsure of how... just that they had been.
We do not know for certain who Luke's parents or wife were. Since he is first cousins with Maxwell Chambers, we may be able to determine his parentage from information Maxwell's family.
One possibility for Luke's father is Simeon Hale from Isle of Wight, who moved to southern Illinois. He did have a son named Luke. However, in the information contained in the Dawes application, Luke moved from Tennessee to Missouri, and there is no mention of living in Illinois. Maybe just an oversight, maybe it didn't happen.???? Maybe Simeon and his other children stayed in Illinois along the way, and Luke just kept going. But, seeing as how the testimony was given by Sarah's sister Nancy Hale, it seems "more likely than not" that she would have mentioned that. ??????
Sarah Hale did not meet Jesse until they arrived in Missouri, where she met "Jesse and his family". (from the testimony of her sister).
So, who are Luke Hale's parents and family?
We have a photo of Sarah Hale and she was said to be full blooded Cherokee. We have no proof of that fact, but looking at her photo, and the photo of her daughter - it is very likely that she was a high percentage of Cherokee.
Since we do not know who her mother was, it is possible that her mother was a Cherokee, and her father was in fact the son of Simeon. But, if family folk-lore is correct and Sarah was a full blooded Cherokee, then Luke would probably not have been Simeon's son. UNLESS maybe Simeon's wife Elizabeth was also using an English name but was Cherokee and that there was such a high percentage of Cherokee blood in Sarah, she was just assumed to be full-blooded.
The history I have read from Isle of Wight makes this a possibility since they were surrounded by different Indian tribes, some friendly with them, some not. But, we do not know.
Maybe somebody out there has an idea of how Maxwell Chambers parents are related to Luke's parents (their mother's are sisters? Luke's mother is a Chambers? Luke's mother is a Boyd?).
Thanks for reading! : )
Saturday, July 18, 2009
Saturday, May 30, 2009
Who is Jesse Anderson's Father?
Jesse Anderson 1814-1845
Jesse was born in South Carolina and later lived in Sequatchie, Tennessee. Around 1832 he relocated to to Pulaski, Missouri. There he married Sarah Hale around 1835. (also called Sally Hale) He passed away in Vernon County in 1845, and his widow was remarried to William Wiseman. The family later moved to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma.
His son Robert M. Anderson applied to the Dawes commission for himself and other family members, but even after several appeals, he was ultimately denied. (From what I can tell, based on not being able to prove his ancestors were on the previous rolls.)
The papers and testimony on file have a few clues on Jesse and their family ~
Robert M. claimed his Cherokee blood through two previous family members actually on rolls (at least that he mentioned). One (on the Anderson side) was his father's aunt Nancy Anderson on the rolls of 1835 and 1848. On his mother's side, through Maxwell Chambers as a first cousin to his grandfather, Luke Hale, on the rolls of 1835 and 1848 living near Candy's Creek.
The commission did state that the family was Cherokee, and that these relatives were in fact on the rolls and known to be Cherokee.
I have searched for Nancy Anderson, and there are a few! But, another testimony given states that he "knew Nancy and Alex" from Sequatchie, Tennessee. So, is Alex the husband of Nancy? The father? The brother?
It is possible that Alex is Jesse's father, and Nancy his sister, but, I have found nothing on this.
One possibly is in the line of John Anderson. There is a son Alexander Anderson born 1764, who married a Nancy Wilcox. This Alexander also had a brother William who had a son Alexander. But, again, was Anderson Nancy's married or maiden name? I would "think" it was her maiden name - but not really sure.
The fact that Robert says his aunt Nancy instead of his grandfather may simply be because she was on the earlier rolls and he was not.
I also have a distant cousin looking into the possibility of Jesse's father being Henry Anderson, who had a father Jesse. - There's some possibility there as well.
So, I am wondering does anyone out there know who Jesse's father is? Any hints to our Nancy and Alex Anderson? Or their information off the rolls?
Children of JESSE ANDERSON and SARAH HALE are:
i. ELIZA ANDERSON, b. 1832, Missouri; m. SMITH.
This is a complete guess! Jesse and Sarah did have a daughter listed on an early census. Later, there was an Eliza Smith in the household in Missouri. ???? However, there is not any mention of her in the Dawes application.
ii. ANDREW MONROE ANDERSON, b. 1836, Missouri; d. 20 Jul 1878, Indian City, Payne, Oklahoma, USA.
iii. WILLIAM ANDERSON, b. 1839, Missouri, USA.
iv. ROBERT MARION ANDERSON, b. 15 Oct 1844, Vernon, Missouri; d. 09 Mar 1935, Oklahoma.
Children of SARAH HALE and WILLIAM WISEMAN are:
v. DANIEL WISEMAN, b. 1846, Bates, Missouri; d. 07 Nov 1881, Chautauqua, Kansas.
vi. NANCY "SHAN" WISEMAN, b. 29 Jun 1850, Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, USA; d. 21 Feb 1917, New Albany,Wilson, Kansas, USA.
Jesse was born in South Carolina and later lived in Sequatchie, Tennessee. Around 1832 he relocated to to Pulaski, Missouri. There he married Sarah Hale around 1835. (also called Sally Hale) He passed away in Vernon County in 1845, and his widow was remarried to William Wiseman. The family later moved to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma.
His son Robert M. Anderson applied to the Dawes commission for himself and other family members, but even after several appeals, he was ultimately denied. (From what I can tell, based on not being able to prove his ancestors were on the previous rolls.)
The papers and testimony on file have a few clues on Jesse and their family ~
Robert M. claimed his Cherokee blood through two previous family members actually on rolls (at least that he mentioned). One (on the Anderson side) was his father's aunt Nancy Anderson on the rolls of 1835 and 1848. On his mother's side, through Maxwell Chambers as a first cousin to his grandfather, Luke Hale, on the rolls of 1835 and 1848 living near Candy's Creek.
The commission did state that the family was Cherokee, and that these relatives were in fact on the rolls and known to be Cherokee.
I have searched for Nancy Anderson, and there are a few! But, another testimony given states that he "knew Nancy and Alex" from Sequatchie, Tennessee. So, is Alex the husband of Nancy? The father? The brother?
It is possible that Alex is Jesse's father, and Nancy his sister, but, I have found nothing on this.
One possibly is in the line of John Anderson. There is a son Alexander Anderson born 1764, who married a Nancy Wilcox. This Alexander also had a brother William who had a son Alexander. But, again, was Anderson Nancy's married or maiden name? I would "think" it was her maiden name - but not really sure.
The fact that Robert says his aunt Nancy instead of his grandfather may simply be because she was on the earlier rolls and he was not.
I also have a distant cousin looking into the possibility of Jesse's father being Henry Anderson, who had a father Jesse. - There's some possibility there as well.
So, I am wondering does anyone out there know who Jesse's father is? Any hints to our Nancy and Alex Anderson? Or their information off the rolls?
Children of JESSE ANDERSON and SARAH HALE are:
i. ELIZA ANDERSON, b. 1832, Missouri; m. SMITH.
This is a complete guess! Jesse and Sarah did have a daughter listed on an early census. Later, there was an Eliza Smith in the household in Missouri. ???? However, there is not any mention of her in the Dawes application.
ii. ANDREW MONROE ANDERSON, b. 1836, Missouri; d. 20 Jul 1878, Indian City, Payne, Oklahoma, USA.
iii. WILLIAM ANDERSON, b. 1839, Missouri, USA.
iv. ROBERT MARION ANDERSON, b. 15 Oct 1844, Vernon, Missouri; d. 09 Mar 1935, Oklahoma.
Children of SARAH HALE and WILLIAM WISEMAN are:
v. DANIEL WISEMAN, b. 1846, Bates, Missouri; d. 07 Nov 1881, Chautauqua, Kansas.
vi. NANCY "SHAN" WISEMAN, b. 29 Jun 1850, Nevada, Vernon, Missouri, USA; d. 21 Feb 1917, New Albany,Wilson, Kansas, USA.
Blog Idea
I have found so much information on our family tree from blogs and message boards, I thought it may be a good idea to try to narrow down options a little.
On my side of our family are the Anderson's, the Coke's, the Coley's and the Branigan's.
I have had a lot of luck, and met some really wonderful distant cousins, all happy to share information.
So! I will make my first "real" post on Jesse Anderson ~ and hope somebody out there has some answers to share. : )
On my side of our family are the Anderson's, the Coke's, the Coley's and the Branigan's.
I have had a lot of luck, and met some really wonderful distant cousins, all happy to share information.
So! I will make my first "real" post on Jesse Anderson ~ and hope somebody out there has some answers to share. : )
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