Showing posts with label Ballew. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ballew. Show all posts

Monday, July 8, 2019

Captain Henry Anderson Family

A while back I posted about the Henry, Jacob, Josiah, and Jesse family.

Well, ultimately, I know this should be the correct family based on the DNA circles on Ancestry.com.  Although the thrulines all show Henry Cook as the father of our siblings.

I don't think they take into account that there were other unknown siblings, or the ages of the family members.  In the photo of siblings to the left, you can see Jacob was born when Henry Cook was three, Ruth when he was only six.  It makes no sense for it to be him.  But, he does fit nicely as the oldest brother.

The Dawes application in one place states that Aunt Nancy was "Robert Marion ANDERSON's" aunt.  Which could possibly be Nancy BALLEW , sister of Henry Cook's wife.   Again, making Henry Cook a sibling.  Margaret BALLEW, his wife, was undoubtedly Cherokee.  However, the only spouse I can find for that Aunt Nancy was a Montgomery, not an Anderson.

Then there's Nancy Anderson who married Francis BALLEW.  Who would certainly be Cherokee by marriage.  And, since it is Robert's aunt, Nancy should be a sibling of Jesse.  I have found a lot of stories and information, but not a sibling Nancy.  And, Francis and Nancy were not in Missouri.  But, it would make a whole lot of sense that if Henry Cook married Margaret, his sister Nancy married Margaret's brother Francis.

Nancy, Francis, and Margaret BALLEW's grandmother on one side was Diana LIGHTSKY, and on the other Charity LIGHTSKY.  Literally, both Indian Princesses.  Daughters of Chief Leyestisky, AKA Chief George Robert Lightsky.

But here's another confusing part.  Nancy who married Francis was an Anderson, Henry who married Margaret was an Anderson.. but the information I am finding have them from two different Anderson lines.

Now, this is possible... but, seems more likely that the families were together and married.  Other trees on Ancestry are showing Nancy descended from James ANDERSON, but ours descended from Henry ANDERSON.  And, I see no place where these two lines meet.  It's going to take a lot more research because I have no proof either way, and I "lean" towards her being in our line.  But, I do have the Bilyeu line in the tree also, which is sometimes Ballew - and they are two different lines.  It can become quite confusing.

In most places, it states that Aunt Nancy was Jesse's aunt.  So, I am not 100% certain where Aunt Nancy fits, but I plan to go back through the testimonies and see if I can narrow down the facts a little better than I have.

Testimony of Andrew Smith
I do wonder if Alexander ANDERSON, could be the father of our group.  I wonder this because of the testimony given, and the way it was worded.  I've read that Henry Sr. had other children, and Andrew Smith states that he knew Alex Anderson and Nancy Anderson. 

This is the only place I've heard of Alex.  Why would he even mention Alex if it wasn't of importance to the family in the case?  Perhaps I should investigate into Andrew Smith's family and see who he was living near.

It would make sense that if he were speaking of the aunt of the children, that he would also address the name of the father.  "Yes, I knew Alex and Nancy Anderson", is how I see this.  I just can't find an Alex under Henry ... or anywhere else, YET.

Regardless of the path to get there, the line does seem to go to Captain Henry ANDERSON b. 1731 right now.  However, this is based off the combination of the DNA matches and those matches family trees.  If the matches have inaccurate information, the line is wrong. 

It does seem that some of the branches off Henry on ThruLines have more documentation, so therefore their trees are proven.  So, assuming they are proven, and DNA matches... would get around to ours 'must be' here somewhere.  For now, I 'assume' this is correct.  Which one of his son's, I am not sure of, but... much, much closer!







Saturday, November 28, 2009

Henry, Jacob, Josiah, Jesse Anderson Brothers

I found a website at http://www.webtree.com/popie/Lyndell-Storey-Moore-Family/Henry-Cook-Anderson that lists Henry Cook Anderson as being the son of Jesse Anderson and Rebecca.
I have emailed the author to find out where this information was obtained, so that maybe I can get some clues.

In researching this information, I found the family of one Henry who had four sons: Jesse, Josiah, Jacob, and Henry. This son Henry Jr., died early. It stands to reason that any of the three other brothers could/would name their first son after him.

I descend from Josiah Anderson (bc 1779 SC) and wife Mary (mnu). Jesse Anderson was eldest brother among Josiah, Jacob and Henry Anderson of Newberry County, S. C. Their father was Henry Anderson, deceased by 1794 Newberry Co SC; his intestate estate was administered that year by eldest son Jesse. The brother's mother was Ruth (mnu), who married John James Breeding Hammon(s) in Newberry County. John Hammons and wife Ruth removed to Haywood County NC. They may have lived first in Buncombe Co NC. Would appreciate and share information on these families.

There was a Henry, Jr. who was the son of a Henry who died by 1786. This Henry, Jr. is the younger brother of Jesse Anderson who administered the estate upon coming of age in 1794. There were also brothers named Josiah and Jacob. The mother's name was Ruth. Jesse moved to Buncombe County NC but I don't know where Henry went. This whole clan of Andersons are very confusing!

(I did not get the links to the message boards these two were on)

Now this generation of brothers are too old to be our Jesse, Jacob and Henry. But our Anderson siblings could very well be the children of one. The only really missing link here is "Aunt Nancy".
Assuming that the information, and Nancy is present, we would have:


1.) Henry and Ruth

2.) Nancy
2.) Josiah & Mary
2.) Henry Jr.
2.) Jacob
2.) Jesse & Rebecca

3.) Henry Cook
3.) Ruth
3.) Jacob
3.) Levisa
3.) Mary Polly
3.) Jesse J.

Ok. Now I just have to see if this theory is true. : )

Saturday, November 21, 2009

Samuel Anderson b. 1793, Burke Co., NC

I think I have found some BIG clues tonight, and am pretty excited about the new find. Maybe, finally, the family of Jesse J. Anderson.

A post on an ancestry message board from 2004 about Samuel Anderson and his family.

His family also married Ballews. AND, there was a Francis Ballew who married Nancy Anderson ~ just like I had previously in my family tree!!

After more searching I had found that around the same time period was a Frances Ballew, female, who’s parents are unknown. Soooo, do I have the right Frances? (I sure hope so!)

If so, that brings me a GREAT big step closer to continuing my line farther.

The post, by Glenn. A. Anderson read:

This is my "annual attempt" to make contact with other branches of my Anderson family, who might
be able to add to the following:
After several years of finding nothing further back than my gr. gr. gr. grandfather, Samuel Anderson b. 1793 Burke Co., NC (m. Millie Ballew 25 July 1821 Burke Co. NC) ... I finally made a break through and located the first name of his mother, Martha, and two siblings, Jesse, who married Nancy Powell 5 Mar 1820 and Nancy who married Francis Ballew 20 Mar 1827. Samuel also had two uncles, William of Ashe Co. NC and Levi of Buncombe Co., NC and one cousin, Levi's son, Gordon Anderson also of Buncombe Co. NC. Samuel also apparently had four other aunts and/or uncles,
which were identified only as having come from Buncombe, Yancey and Haywood Co's in NC.
I would appreciate hearing from anyone that might have ties to any of the foregoing
Regards
Glenn A. Anderson


So, my thought is that Francis Ballew in this post who married Nancy Anderson, is the brother of Margaret Ballew, who married Henry Cook Anderson. If that is the case then one of Samuel’s Uncles listed on this page may very well be my Jesse’s father. Also, we know that there are four others not listed. Is one of them Alex Anderson?

Any more clues????? Anybody have any insight on this new information?

(I am really hoping this is correct, and is taking one step closer to the answer of who is Jesse Anderson’s father)

THANKS! And, happy searching!

Saturday, August 8, 2009

Getting Closer ~ Jesse J. Anderson

Ok. After more research - some interesting finds in the search for Jesse J.'s father.

"Also during 1817, James Ballew, William Gillapsy, and Henry Anderson, of North Carolina, accompanied by their families, settled on the Gasconade River about twelve miles southwest of the site of Waynesville, near the Laclede County line. Josiah Turpin, of Kentucky, also located there the same year. Soon after, Elijah and Elisha Christeson settled on the land in the vicinity of the site where Waynesville is now located. Cyrus Colley, settled in a "hollow", which was later named after him. Later that year, Jeptha West, Jesse A. Rayl, Sr. and Thomas Starke settled near the Christesons. "

In the fall of 1828 my father and mother, mother's parents, John and Bethia Hillhouse, and my uncle, Josiah M. Hillhouse moved from Lawrence county, Tennessee, and on the 19th of November pitched their tent on the Osage Fork of Gasconade river, about fifteen miles east of where Lebanon now stands, just above where Farris' mill was afterwards built.....Just across the river from our cabin, in calling distance lived Jacob Anderson and his young wife, whose maiden name was Duff, and his two sisters, Levisa and Polly, and a younger brother, Jesse J. Anderson, not yet grown......the Andersons were the great-uncles and aunts, on mother's side, of Rev. E. J. Stanley, of Montana. Just up the river a mile or two lived James Campbell and his wife, Ruth. She was an Anderson. They were both Methodists, and the grandparents of Brother Stanley.....I remember being often at these two houses, and that I had an exalted opinion of "Aunt Ruth's" piety which was confirmed after I had grown to man's estate. I suppose Mr. Campbell was not very demonstrative; I only remember that he was very tall, fair-skinned and redheaded; that he kept a blacksmith shop and acted as deputy sheriff.....The society consisted of Jacob Anderson and Peggy, his wife, Josiah M. Hillhouse and Peggy, his wife, James Campbell and Ruth, his wife, and his brother, Moses Campbell; I think he had been a member before and had license to preach or exhort, but was in a backslidden state and was restored; he afterwards preached occasionally. Also, Levisa Anderson, Polly Anderson, Jesse J. Anderson and Patsy and Nancy Hillhouse, and possibly some others."



Looking at this map, you can see that where Henry Cook Anderson settled in 1817 is the same location where Jacob, and his family (including Jesse J.) were living in 1828. Which leads me to believe they are family.

Now, the birthdates don't seem to line up with Henry being old enough to be the father of Jacob and Ruth, but perhaps a brother. ???? Does anybody have information on who are the parents of Henry Cook Anderson or Ruth Anderson Campbell? This would help a great deal! Ruth is said to be the grandparent of - and the other Anderson's Great aunts and uncles - so the others are family.

Now, we already know they came from North Carolina, to Tennessee, then Missouri - and we know that in their Dawes application they mention "Alex Anderson and Nancy Anderson" and also "William and Nancy Anderson".

The book says that Henry Cook went there in 1817, it is also listed on different family trees that I've seen, that Ruth Anderson and James Campbell were married in Missouri in 1819. So, it would make sense that Ruth and the other siblings were with Henry's party.

There is an eleven year span between the time of Henry's arrival and the time that we have documented that the Anderson siblings are there. SO, did their parents pass away and the other children go to stay with their older sibling? Ruth and her husband moved down the road? But, Henry is not mentioned in the 1828 story.

If anyone knows any information about this, please let me know. I will keep hunting!






Sources:
(may be included)
"Missouri Marriages Before 1840", compiled by Susan Ormesher, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. (1982)
"Kansas Pioneers", by Topeka Genealogical Society, Topeka, KS (1976)
& supported by various websites.